- gallifrey
- https://blog.bemoe.online
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2019-06-08
+1 (a favourable vote since i gather from your last comment that the change is in its final form based on the line saying you "wait on [my] vote" and i don't believe you can make changes after you've opened voting, so i assume the debate period is over and the "discussions and votes from the other players" literally just means discussion and not debate because you are no longer able to change the ammendment and debate ends when voting begins. please correct me if this was not your intent or if i am wrong about this; the rules are rather ambiguous on this and i don't remember anything about being able to rescind votes or multiple rounds of voting so this is just my assumptions i am basing this on.)
(i just phoenix wright pwned your argument by pointing that contradiction and i also think we need a muc or matrix channel so i can write things like that there instead so i hope you make the change i proposed)
i disagree on your interpretation of the naming of the amended rule. rule 108 clearly states: "If a rule is amended or transmuted, it receives the number of the proposal to amend or transmute it. If an amendment is amended or repealed, the entire rule of which it is a part receives the number of the proposal to amend or repeal the amendment." i think this unambiguously means that, should the amendment be passed, the amended rule 214 would become 301. therefore, as stated in rule 111, "the other players may suggest amendments or argue against the proposal before the vote." i would propose tA amend this proposed amendment to comply with this rule, and instead of keeping it as 214 (which is a violation of rule 108), it receives the number 301. since this is still the debate period, and rule 111 also states "The proponent decides the final form in which the proposal is to be voted on and, unless the Judge has been asked to do so, also decides the time to end debate and vote", i believe tA (as the proponent) is able to change his amendment to reflect this before it is voted upon and i do not think the number should be changed to 302 because the 301 amendment has not yet been finalised by tA following the debate period. by this logic, tA still would be the one receiving points on its approval even with my proposed change (see rule 202).
additional: sorry i did not provide links like tA did but i am incredibly lazy by nature (like my cat) and sorry if i posted this in the wrong place--i'm doing my best ^^.